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Digital Messiah Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 160	Posted - 2012.04.11 06:08:00 - [1] - Quote That is my question... EVEboard Amarr Frigate I Amarr Frigate II Amarr Frigate III Amarr Frigate IV Amarr Cruiser I Amarr Cruiser II Amarr Cruiser III Amarr Cruiser IV Amarr Battleship I Amarr Battleship II Amarr Battleship III Caldari Frigate III Caldari Frigate IV Caldari Cruiser I Caldari Cruiser II Caldari Cruiser III Caldari Cruiser IV Caldari Battleship I Caldari Battleship II Caldari Battleship III Destroyers II Destroyers III Destroyers IV Destroyers V Advanced Spaceship Command I Advanced Spaceship Command II Advanced Spaceship Command III Advanced Spaceship Command IV Missile Bombardment IV Missile Bombardment V Target Navigation Prediction IV Target Navigation Prediction V Rapid Launch IV Rapid Launch V Missile Projection IV Missile Projection V Warhead Upgrades I Warhead Upgrades II Warhead Upgrades III Warhead Upgrades IV Warhead Upgrades V Guided Missile Precision I Guided Missile Precision II Guided Missile Precision III Guided Missile Precision IV Heavy Missiles I Heavy Missiles II Heavy Missiles III Cruise Missiles I Cruise Missiles II Cruise Missiles III Cruise Missiles IV Cruise Missiles V Cruise Missile Specialization I Sharpshooter V Medium Artillery Specialization II Medium Artillery Specialization III Medium Artillery Specialization IV Large Artillery Specialization I Small Energy Turret I Small Energy Turret II Small Energy Turret III Small Energy Turret IV Small Energy Turret V Small Beam Laser Specialization I Small Beam Laser Specialization II Small Beam Laser Specialization III Small Beam Laser Specialization IV Medium Energy Turret I Medium Energy Turret II Medium Energy Turret III Medium Energy Turret IV Medium Energy Turret V Medium Beam Laser Specialization I Medium Beam Laser Specialization II Medium Beam Laser Specialization III Medium Beam Laser Specialization IV Large Energy Turret I Large Energy Turret II Large Energy Turret III Large Energy Turret IV Large Energy Turret V Large Beam Laser Specialization I Small Hybrid Turret IV Small Hybrid Turret V Small Blaster Specialization I Small Blaster Specialization II Small Blaster Specialization III Small Blaster Specialization IV Medium Hybrid Turret I Medium Hybrid Turret II Medium Hybrid Turret III Medium Hybrid Turret IV Medium Hybrid Turret V Medium Blaster Specialization I Medium Blaster Specialization II Medium Blaster Specialization III Medium Blaster Specialization IV Large Hybrid Turret I Large Hybrid Turret II Large Hybrid Turret III Large Hybrid Turret IV Large Hybrid Turret V Large Blaster Specialization I Small Pulse Laser Specialization I Small Pulse Laser Specialization II Small Pulse Laser Specialization III Small Pulse Laser Specialization IV Medium Pulse Laser Specialization I Medium Pulse Laser Specialization II Medium Pulse Laser Specialization III Medium Pulse Laser Specialization IV Large Pulse Laser Specialization I Small Railgun Specialization I Small Railgun Specialization II Small Railgun Specialization III Small Railgun Specialization IV Medium Railgun Specialization I Medium Railgun Specialization II Medium Railgun Specialization III Medium Railgun Specialization IV Large Railgun Specialization I Controlled Bursts I Controlled Bursts II Controlled Bursts III Controlled Bursts IV Surgical Strike IV 40 unique skills, 127 skill levels; Total time: 207 days, 14 hours, 37 minutes, 4 seconds After which i would continue to max out my gunnery, missile, and any desired spaceship command skills, for specialization and level 5. After that back to int / memory for max support and electronic warfare skills. Seem like a good idea? Seem like a bad idea? Should I instead specialize in strictly minmatar and focus on their ships? Anyone who has experience in this point of character development? "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Digital Messiah Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 163	Posted - 2012.04.11 21:21:00 - [2] - Quote Vito Antonio wrote: crosstraining at your skill level seems rather pointless At which point would it be better to consider doing it? As I was asking before, would it be better to simply improve upon minmatar as a ship class in a whole and get all their tech 2 ships and level 5 skills? "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Digital Messiah Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 164	Posted - 2012.04.11 22:24:00 - [3] - Quote mxzf wrote: I've got a better question for you. Do you want to cross-train? This is a game, if you want to be able to fly a ship and it sounds fun, go for it. Best case, you love your new ship, worst case you waste a bit of time taking a detour (which might turn out helping you later on). Personally, I'm cross-trained for all four races for most sub-cap ships (working on the last Cruiser 5 right now), I enjoy the versatility and I don't feel that it has limited me in the game whatsoever. It's all a personal choice though, it's up to you. I currently fly minmatar, I enjoy my sleipnir and can fly a machariel. But I am sort of just greedily wanting to be able to fly what i want. Maybe instead of autocannons I can pew pew with lasers. Or make a rattlesnake for pve over a mach. But I can alway use a cruise missile typhoon I guess. Or just cross train lasers specifically. Just seeing if there is any terrible reasons not to do it early on. I have level 4 support skills and gunnery as is. So it isn't like I am severely under skilled to pilot any sub capital ship. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Digital Messiah Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 165	Posted - 2012.04.12 03:40:00 - [4] - Quote Thank you for all the advice, I have come to the conclusion that I should first squeeze the most I can out of a machariel and maybe get my light missile skills up for cruiser / battle cruiser pvp. But Alas Amarr is on my list of races to cross train in the near future for nuet boats :D "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Digital Messiah Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 176	Posted - 2012.04.16 18:54:00 - [5] - Quote Bugsy VanHalen wrote: personally I would recommend getting fitting/support skills maxed out first. They affect all races. then max out your chosen weapons and ships. then start cross training. Being able to fly every ship in game does you no good if you can not fly any of them effectively. support skills are a must to decently fit any ship. Get your support skills up including the weapon support skills for what ever you like using the most. get these up before even moving into your chosen races battleship. A well fit BC with good support skills can easily take down a poorly fit battleship with bad support skills. You didn't read my OP did you I have all rank 1's to level 5, rank 2's to level 4, and I can fly a sleipnir, and can use tech 2 large auto's/arties. The plan I am about to start is going to finish my support skills to all level 5 with level 4 ew skills is only 6 months long. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Digital Messiah Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 176	Posted - 2012.04.18 22:22:00 - [6] - Quote Electronic Warfare I Nanite Operation I Sensor Linking I Weapon Disruption I Electronic Superiority Rigging I Astrometric Acquisition I Electronic Warfare II Frequency Modulation I Nanite Operation II Propulsion Jamming II Armor Rigging II Astronautics Rigging II Drones Rigging II Energy Weapon Rigging II Hybrid Weapon Rigging II Launcher Rigging II Projectile Weapon Rigging II Shield Rigging II Frequency Modulation II Sensor Linking II Weapon Disruption II Electronic Superiority Rigging II Cloaking II Astrometric Acquisition II Electronic Warfare III Long Distance Jamming I Long Distance Jamming II Nanite Operation III Nanite Interfacing I Nanite Interfacing II Target Painting III Propulsion Jamming III Armor Rigging III Astronautics Rigging III Drones Rigging III Energy Weapon Rigging III Hybrid Weapon Rigging III Launcher Rigging III Projectile Weapon Rigging III Shield Rigging III Frequency Modulation III Sensor Linking III Weapon Disruption III Electronic Superiority Rigging III Nanite Interfacing III Long Distance Jamming III Signature Analysis IV Astrometric Acquisition III Cloaking III Astrometric Rangefinding III Long Range Targeting IV EM Shield Compensation IV Energy Emission Systems IV Explosive Shield Compensation IV Kinetic Shield Compensation IV Thermic Shield Compensation IV EM Armor Compensation IV Explosive Armor Compensation IV Kinetic Armor Compensation IV Remote Armor Repair Systems IV Thermic Armor Compensation IV Electronic Warfare IV Signal Dispersion I Signal Dispersion II Signal Dispersion III Nanite Operation IV Astrometrics IV Astrometric Pinpointing I Astrometric Pinpointing II Astrometric Pinpointing III Salvaging IV Target Painting IV Signature Focusing I Signature Focusing II Signature Focusing III Propulsion Jamming IV Armor Rigging IV Astronautics Rigging IV Drones Rigging IV Energy Weapon Rigging IV Hybrid Weapon Rigging IV Launcher Rigging IV Projectile Weapon Rigging IV Shield Rigging IV Frequency Modulation IV Sensor Linking IV Signal Suppression I Signal Suppression II Signal Suppression III Weapon Disruption IV Turret Destabilization I Turret Destabilization II Turret Destabilization III Electronic Superiority Rigging IV Nanite Interfacing IV Long Distance Jamming IV Navigation V Warp Drive Operation V Targeting V Multitasking I Multitasking II Multitasking III Science V Repair Systems V Signal Dispersion IV Signal Suppression IV Signature Focusing IV Turret Destabilization IV Astrometric Acquisition IV Astrometric Pinpointing IV Signature Analysis V Cloaking IV Astrometric Rangefinding IV Evasive Maneuvering V Electronics Upgrades V Shield Compensation V Long Range Targeting V Energy Emission Systems V Shield Management V Salvaging V Propulsion Jamming V 50 unique skills, 121 skill levels 166 days training time. I am not planning on getting tactical shield any higher until I get a yes or no on whether it effects getting shot through to armor? Also I am currently perception will power. But this will be my int / mem remap unless i plan to get my mining up which i probably won't. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Digital Messiah Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 176	Posted - 2012.04.19 02:26:00 - [7] - Quote Thank you shoogie, that was the advice i was looking for. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Digital Messiah Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 176	Posted - 2012.04.20 17:15:00 - [8] - Quote Riedle wrote: Digital Messiah wrote: Bugsy VanHalen wrote: personally I would recommend getting fitting/support skills maxed out first. They affect all races. then max out your chosen weapons and ships. then start cross training. Being able to fly every ship in game does you no good if you can not fly any of them effectively. support skills are a must to decently fit any ship. Get your support skills up including the weapon support skills for what ever you like using the most. get these up before even moving into your chosen races battleship. A well fit BC with good support skills can easily take down a poorly fit battleship with bad support skills. You didn't read my OP did you I have all rank 1's to level 5, rank 2's to level 4, and I can fly a sleipnir, and can use tech 2 large auto's/arties. The plan I am about to start is going to finish my support skills to all level 5 with level 4 ew skills is only 6 months long. Why are you training advanced spaceship command? I want to be able to fly a freighter. Told my corporation I would do it to help transport goods. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"

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